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POLL: Is It Irresponsible for Bars and Restaurants to Stay Open During Hurricane Sandy?

Posted by Victor Fiorillo on October 29th, 2012

Today, many Philadelphia bars and restaurants are announcing (some pretty much bragging) on Twitter about being open during Hurricane Sandy even though Mayor Michael Nutter has declared a state of emergency and told people to stay home. Some on Twitter aren’t very happy about this. @JayPepito tweets: “Unbelievable that Stephen Starr is having restaurants open today in Philadelphia. What an irresponsible jackass.”

On one hand, people love to have a neighborhood gathering place during major storms. But on the other hand, many employees have to travel from the outskirts of the city to get to work. Are these restaurants making the right decisions?

Should bars and restaurants be open during Hurricane Sandy?

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    • samk

      It is incredibly irresponsible to remain open during a state of emergency. And websites / twitter accounts like Foobooz, etc. are only encouraging this with its incessant #openinphl celebratory tweets. Nothing is more important than people’s safety. I encourage every restaurant / bar to close and for websites to stop tracking every move and glamorizing the so-called heroes (more like morons) who choose to put everyone in imminent danger by keeping their restaurant open. And let’s get real – anyone who knows anything about the restaurant industry knows there’s no “voluntary” come to work. You either show up to work when your restaurant is open or risk losing your job.

    • http://www.johnnygoodtimes.com Johnny Goodtimes

      There is plenty of voluntary come to work during a situation like this. No restaurant is going to force it’s employees to come in if there are 70 mph winds. But right now we’ve got a light rain and almost no wind. Why should they close for lunch today?

      Furthermore, most employees, at least front of the house, want to work. When you’re in the biz, when you don’t work you don’t get paid. I am hoping to work tonight, as I am in the same boat (no work=no pay). If it is pouring rain, I’ll work. If the winds are completely insane, I won’t. I’m pretty sure I won’t get fired either way.

    • allig

      My first thought was to answer this: “Yes. But only if they make it voluntary for employees to come to work.” But “voluntary” in the work place is always full of guilt. If your boss is saying it’s voluntary, she is saying “let’s see who cares about their job the most.”

    • Sucka Tash

      Johnny, I’m sorry, dude but have you ever worked in a kitchen? There is no voluntary anything. I’ve worked in many of the city’s great kitchens and if they call you in today and you have even a contention or concern, you’re toast. Most definitely blackballed. For you to think that coming to work in a hurricane is an option is a nice gesture, but simply not true.

    • http://www.johnnygoodtimes.com Johnny Goodtimes

      I have worked front of the house, not in a kitchen. You are certainly more of an expert in this field than I. (I was playing devil’s advocate more than anything, to be honest. My default setting is “debate”.) That said, I don’t see why anything should be closed today for lunch. As tonight approaches, and this thing gets more and more serious, I understand the concern.

    • barryg

      Always fun to bash Starr but lots of indie places are open too.

    • mez

      Most of the small businesses in my neighborhood are open today – and, for the most part, they are staffed by the owners or managers. I think there is a huge difference between a large restaurant or business forcing employees to come in and small business owners’ willingness to stay open to serve the neighborhood and try to limit the financial hit – especially if power outages force them to be closed in coming days.

    • http://www.twitter.com/leeanneeats LeeAnne

      I can’t speak in either direction about what’s implied when a restaurant owner says workers can volunteer to come in to work during a storm. I’ve never worked in the industry, so I have no real stance on that. What I can speak to, though, is that the Mayor and Governor have encouraged everyone to stay in their homes or a shelter. We have all been told to stay off the roads. We have been advised to only leave our home because of a safety concern–not because we want a beer or a burger. It’s unsafe to travel, whether it’s to get to work at a bar or to get a beer at the bar. Out of respect for the emergency workers who have to be out there to help all of us, we should be doing our part to help them by staying off the roads. For those who make the argument that they will walk to the bar instead of driving, that’s a great stance to have until a tree or power line falls on someone. It just seems irresponsible to open up tonight and encourage both workers and patrons to do the exact opposite of what the Mayor, Governor and emergency response workers have all urged us to do.

    • Julie

      As a bar owner, when I say that it’s voluntary to come to work, I truly mean it. I will work on my own. My concern is more for the customers who choose to come in and drink. I don’t really like the idea of setting drunk people out on the street in the thick of the storm. It is irresponsible and potentially dangerous. Personally, I think if you stay open past 10pm tonight, you are putting profits before people.

    • Sucka Tash

      There are no mayors or governors in a kitchen.

    • misssweeney

      The reason why people are urged to stay home is to not put emergency personnel in more danger should they need to rescue your butt. Use your brain.

    • http://www.facebook.com/doobiesbar Doobies Bar

      We are open today, as long as it is safe to do so. PLEASE, only come in if you are in the neighborhood. Quizzo is cancelled tonight. No purchase is required. If you need a place to go to feel safe, we are here.

    • Brian

      Johnny is right about lunch -at the time there was light rain and little wind.

      The right way for the neighborhood pub to do it today is open for lunch, put on a special Sandy happy hour right about now and close the doors by 6pm.

    • hiki

      People who don’t live in the city (burbers) tend to forget sometimes work is literally blocks away. it doesn’t take a car to get there. the city is relatively small in that way.

      if you are driving yes, its irresponsible, but s short walk to work, i can see how people wouldn’t be put out by that.

    • D. Dolphin

      As others on here have said, it’s extremely f— up for any restaurant to stay open when public transit has been shut down and the streets are unsafe– you’re forcing your kitchen staff to put themselves at risk. You, foobooz, are complicit in this exploitation. Please stop promoting these abusive employers with your constant #openinphl promotional posts and retweets.

      I’ve worked as a cook and sous-chef and from what I saw in the business I can’t imagine a ‘voluntary’ come in to work policy, under any conditions. If you don’t come in when told to, you are fired immediately.

      My impetus for posting this was the fact that most foobooz readers don’t know what a silly fantasy the “Yes. But only if they make it voluntary for employees to come to work” option is.

    • Boner

      No because it is irresponsible, and no one’s coming in anyway.

    • Face Hole

      I’d like to point out the pieces of sh*t who go to a restaurant during a state of emergency because they can’t feed their own face hole for one day. Then they shrug and smile at staff and say “Well you’re open, its not MY problem you’re here!!1″. These jackasses with no lives or cares for others are a big part of the problem.

    • Jimmy

      What’s a face hole?

    • Steve

      Went to our neighborhood bar last night and they were more than happy to serve the neighborhood, earn money/tips and enjoy some good company during what turned out to be a glorified rain storm in Center City Philadelphia. My heart goes out to those in the suburbs and the shore who experienced real damage, but let’s all be honest here…..walking a few blocks in a rain storm in the city where flooding was not imminent and wind gusts were much less than expected is hardly irresponsible. I’d love to see how many of you hypocrites were at the bars in the city that were open two years ago when we got slammed with snow and had arguably much more dangerous conditions than yesterday. Just sayin….

    • Dave

      I wonder how many people who are upset about bars & restaurants being open were actually in a bar or restaurant last night…

    • denright

      i think a face hole is what the kids used to call a pie hole

    • chatty cathy

      The Starr restaurant that I was at for lunch yesterday was packed…for a good reason…the weather was absolutely fine around lunchtime. It was just like any other rainy day except most other restaurants were closed. I would have stayed open too if I were the owner. A friend of mine who works at this restaurant said they closed early and sent everyone home by 4pm. People had plenty of time to get home and be safe.

    • Tony

      I wonder if all of the people who think it was so irresponsible to stay open are from Center City. I stayed home all day on Monday, only to see light rain and gentle breezes most of the day. I easily could have gone to work myself, with no danger whatsoever, and I don’t think it was irresponsible for restaurants to open and monitor the situation during the day. Fortunately, Sandy was a non-event in Center City.

    • http://ZigZag PPABootSquadVinne

      I’ll go out if I want in any weather, and it’s appreciated when a businessperson stays open [and makes money for his employees who come in] to give us ‘End of the World’ people food, drink and shelter from the storm.
      The rest of You People-Shut up and mind your own business. No one is getting hurt when Adults make their own choices.

    • pmci

      I think it’s almost impossible to say. In retrospect, it seems fine, because CC was largely unaffected. But if/when that was uncertain, I hope owners that choose to stay open make DAMN certain that they could protect and shelter all of those people (employees, especially) in the worst case scenario. Because otherwise, first responders are going to be stretched beyond their limits trying to help people who didn’t heed the warnings to stay somewhere safe.

      But ultimately, whether or not it’s ok is sort of a case-by-case basis thing. If you have a place that’s in a very low-risk area, and the decision to stay open was made only after considering whether or not employees could safely get there and back and didn’t feel coerced into coming in, then I don’t see the harm.

      Personally, though, I would really appreciate it if my employer just bit the bullet and closed up shop through the worst of it. I’d hate not to be at home with my loved ones if the worst happened.